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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Tattva-darśinaḥ. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sen görmediysen</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gerçeğin bilgisini diğerlerine nasıl verebilirsin ki</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yani </del>Tanrı görülür, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sadece tarihte değil</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Tarihte, Kṛṣṇa </del>bu <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gezegende bulundu</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kurukṣetra savaşı'nın tarihi bu </del>Bhagavad-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gītā'nın konuşulduğu </del>yer <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tarihsel </del>bir <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gerçektir</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yani </del>Bhagavān Śrī <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kṛṣṇa'yı hem tarih aracılığıyla hem de </del>śāstra <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">aracılığıyla görebiliriz</del>. Śāstra-cakṣusā. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Aynı şu an </del>olduğu <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gibi</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kṛṣṇa fiziksel olarak burada değil</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ama śāstra </del>yoluyla <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kṛṣṇa'nın ne </del>olduğunu <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">anlıyoruz</del>. </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Tattva-darśinaḥ. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sən görmədinsə</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">başqalarına necə mə'lumat verə bilərsən</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yə'ni </ins>Tanrı görülür, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">yalnız bu tarixdə deyil</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Tarixdə Krişna </ins>bu <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">planetdə olmuş</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kurukşetra döyüşünün tarixi </ins>Bhagavad-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gitanın danışıldığı </ins>yer <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tarixi </ins>bir <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gerçəkdir</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yəni </ins>Bhagavān Śrī <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kṛiṣṇanı həm tarix həm də </ins>śāstra <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">vasitəsiylə görə bilərik</ins>. Śāstra-cakṣusā. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Eyni indi </ins>olduğu <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">kimi</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">fiziki olaraq Krişna burda deyil</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">amma sastra </ins>yoluyla <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Krişnanın nə </ins>olduğunu <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">anlayırıq. Yəni "śāstra-cakṣusā". Śāstra... Ya birbaşa ağlımız yolu ilə ya da śāstra yolu ilə. Sastra yolu ilə anlamaq birbaşa anlamaqdan daha yaxşıdır. Bu səbəblə bizim biliyimiz- Veda prinsiplərini izləyənlərin biliyi- Vedalardan gəlir. Onlar heç bir şey uydurmazlar. Əgər bir şey Vedalar sübut olaraq göstərilərək danışılırsa, o doğrudur. Yəni Krişna Vedalar vasitəsiylә anlaşılır</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </ins></div></td></tr>
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Şimdi Kṛṣṇa orada. Kṛṣṇa'nın resmine, Kṛṣṇa' nın fotoğrafına, Kṛṣṇa'nın tapınağına sahibiz, Kṛṣṇa'ya ait birçok şeye. Onlar kurgusal değil. Onlar hayal ürünü değiller, Māyāvādī filozofunun düşündüğü gibi "zihninde hayal edebilirsin" değil, Hayır. Tanrı hayal edilemez. Bu da başka bir aptallık. Tanrı'yı nasıl hayal edebilirsin ki? O zaman Tanrı senin hayalgücünün bir nesnesi haline gelir. O'nun bir varlığı yok. Bu Tanrı değil. Hayal ürünü olan, Tanrı değildir. Tanrı karşınızda, Kṛṣṇa. O bu gezegene gelir. Tadātmānaṁ sṛjāmy aham, sambhavāmi yuge yuge. O yüzden Tanrı'yı görmüş olanlardan, onlardan bilgi alırsın. <br />
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:tad viddhi praṇipātena<br />
:paripraśnena sevayā<br />
:upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ<br />
:jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ<br />
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Tattva-darśinaḥ. Sen görmediysen, gerçeğin bilgisini diğerlerine nasıl verebilirsin ki? Yani Tanrı görülür, sadece tarihte değil. Tarihte, Kṛṣṇa bu gezegende bulundu, Kurukṣetra savaşı'nın tarihi bu Bhagavad-gītā'nın konuşulduğu yer tarihsel bir gerçektir. Yani Bhagavān Śrī Kṛṣṇa'yı hem tarih aracılığıyla hem de śāstra aracılığıyla görebiliriz. Śāstra-cakṣusā. Aynı şu an olduğu gibi, Kṛṣṇa fiziksel olarak burada değil, ama śāstra yoluyla Kṛṣṇa'nın ne olduğunu anlıyoruz. <br />
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Yani śāstra-cakṣusā. Śāstra... Ya direk algıyla ya da śāstra yoluyla... Şāstra yoluyla algılama direk algılamadan daha iyidir. Bu nedenle bizim bilgimiz, Vedik prensipleri takip edenlerin bilgisi Vedalardan gelir. Onlar herhangi bir bilgi üretmezler. Eğer bir şey Vedalar kanıt gösterilerek anlaşılıyorsa, o gerçektir. Yani Kṛṣṇa Vedalar aracılığıyla anlaşılır. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15|BG 15.15]]). Bu Bhagavad-gītā'da belirtilmiştir. Kṛṣṇa'yı kurgulayamazsın. Eğer sahtekarın biri "Ben kurguluyorum" diyorsa, bu sahtekarlıktır. Kṛṣṇa'yı Vedalar aracılığıyla görmelisiniz. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15|BG 15.15]]). Vedaları çalışmanın amacı budur. Bu nedenle ona Vedānta denir. Kṛṣṇa'nın bilgisi Vedāntadır.<br />
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